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    OT: Anti-Liberty PATRIOT Act is renewed by Obama.

    As an Obama supporter, this saddens me.

    The new version is even worse than the old one Bush put in place.

    If something like this was proposed in Britain (where I live) even after the 7/7 bombings, I'm sure there would be riots in the streets. Yet Americans plug their ears, cover their eyes, and go about their day like their rights and liberties aren't being desecrated and nothing has changed.

    Now this government wants to regulate the Internet and people are shocked?

    "The tragedy of our day is the climate of fear in which we live, and fear breeds repression. Too often sinister threats to the Bill of Rights, to freedom of the mind, are concealed under the patriotic cloak of anti-communism terrorism." - Adlai Stevenson


    Is there anything we can do but watch this train-wreck happen?




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    I'm not american, so what exactly does this mean? I'm guessing it's bad?

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    no1 in europe curr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superglowy View Post
    I'm not american, so what exactly does this mean? I'm guessing it's bad?
    It's really bad. The PATRIOT act allows the government to spy on its own citizens. They can go into your house when you're not in. They can read your mail, look at your private records, listen in during your phone calls...etc. What is even worse: They can do all of this without even any evidence or proof that you're doing anything wrong in the first place. ANYONE can be subjected to this invasion of privacy, innocent or not.

    I would be so mad if I lived in the US and had this **** going on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KittyCA View Post
    It's really bad. The PATRIOT act allows the government to spy on its own citizens. They can go into your house when you're not in. They can read your mail, look at your private records, listen in during your phone calls...etc. What is even worse: They can do all of this without even any evidence or proof that you're doing anything wrong in the first place. ANYONE can be subjected to this invasion of privacy, innocent or not.

    I would be so mad if I lived in the US and had this **** going on.
    Kitty please! They are already doing it for years all over the world... Thinking that you have some privacy it's just delusional. As soon as you get phone, internet, etc.. you can be spied, but of course I doubt that you are interesting to anyone since you are just a regular citizen.

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    If something like this was proposed in Britain (where I live) even after the 7/7 bombings, I'm sure there would be riots in the streets.
    Thats because your country has blinded its citizens for so long that they don't have to tell you anything. They act without your involvement.

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    If you're not doing anything wrong I don't see why it would bother you.. They wouldn't just burst into your house and rummage through your things unless they had a reason. I could care less if they listen to my phone calls or read my mail. I have nothing to hide. If it means we're safer as a country, I'm all for the Patriot Act. Sorry, just my opinion..

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    Wow at some people's "opinion" bringing us back years ago.
    That said, this thread is not gonna end well.
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    We will not get the 1st single (which at this point probably won't even be "Love Your body") until Late April/Early May, and then the single will be performed on the Season Finale of "The Voice" on May 8th.

    Music Video gets shot right after the finale. Album drops on August 7th or the 15th. You will all deal and I will be bumping this thread back up in May.

    Also, I predicted "Bionic" would be out on June 1st or June 8th back in January 2010. You all laughed at me and said it was coming in March but I put my deluded Stan thinking aside because I knew she wouldnt wrap up "Burlesque" until March. As Ive said plenty of times and we've witnessed on numerous occasions, Christina does not like to do two things at once. We will be even lucky to get the single on the final week of the show (yes, I'm saying it like I know for a fact that's what's gonna happen because well...that is what's gonna happen). At this point Shes not even halfway through recording her album and she's not gonna finish much while she's doing the show. Which is why they give us a 1st single but give her until August to drop the album.

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    There's no reason for this thread to "not end well". Everyone has their own opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bl0ndxrebel View Post
    If you're not doing anything wrong I don't see why it would bother you.. They wouldn't just burst into your house and rummage through your things unless they had a reason. I could care less if they listen to my phone calls or read my mail. I have nothing to hide. If it means we're safer as a country, I'm all for the Patriot Act. Sorry, just my opinion..
    That sounds so stupid! LOL
    If emails and cellphones weren't popular communication tools, would they start forcing Microsoft and Apple to put some kind of undetectable big brother spyware on every computer? Would our home phones be tapped? Get real

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    If I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they listen to my phone calls. It's not like I know they are doing it. If I'm not a terrorist or a mass murderer, I could care less because I'm not doing anything wrong. If it keeps me safe, I'm all for it. When it gets to the point to where they make everyone wear a microchip like they've talked about doing, or anything like that- that's different to me. Reading through peoples emails, checking what books they checked out, and listening to phone calls isn't a big deal to me if you aren't doing anything wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bl0ndxrebel View Post
    If I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they listen to my phone calls. It's not like I know they are doing it. If I'm not a terrorist or a mass murderer, I could care less because I'm not doing anything wrong. If it keeps me safe, I'm all for it. When it gets to the point to where they make everyone wear a microchip like they've talked about doing, or anything like that- that's different to me. Reading through peoples emails, checking what books they checked out, and listening to phone calls isn't a big deal to me if you aren't doing anything wrong.
    A microchip(with no video and audio) would be less intrusive. What if the government decides they want to use this information to fight the war on child predators. To do this , they will investigate anyone who has willingly or unintentionally downloaded child porn.You could have a child porn video in your cache and never know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bl0ndxrebel View Post
    If I have nothing to hide, I don't care if they listen to my phone calls. It's not like I know they are doing it. If I'm not a terrorist or a mass murderer, I could care less because I'm not doing anything wrong. If it keeps me safe, I'm all for it.
    SMH

    What makes you think micro-chipping your ass is going too far? When it gets to that point do you really think the government will give a damn about what your think? You've already disgraced everything those hundreds of thousands of Americans, who fought and died so you can live free and have liberty. The whole system is corrupt and it is because of people like you that helped make it this way. So that's a no to micro chips? Don't forget what you said: "If it keeps me safe, I'm all for it. I have nothing to hide." That is what they will say as you bend over and take it.

    You're a prime example of Benjamin Franklin's point: He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.

    They wouldn't just burst into your house and rummage through your things unless they had a reason.
    Why do you think they needed this Law in the first place? Before 9/11 they had to show just cause in front of a special court that handed out special warrants. With the Patriot Act they don't need to do that anymore. They can go after ANYBODY, innocent or not, for no legal reason at all, and take their rights away. How does that make you safe? There are little old ladies and children on Terrorist Watch Lists in the US. Who knows, maybe you're on it too.


    Thats because your country has blinded its citizens for so long that they don't have to tell you anything. They act without your involvement.
    I would love to know more about this. More details/cases/examples of such occurrences that make you believe this is happening in the UK.
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    duh, he wants to get re-elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AintNoOtherMe View Post
    but of course I doubt that you are interesting to anyone since you are just a regular citizen.
    The federal government sifted through 28 MILLION electronic records last year. If you think there are 28 million 'terrorists,' you're naive.

    The Patriot Act and the Dept of Homeland Security / TSA were set up for the American people, not for terrorists. The Patriot Act is really old legislation that had been floating around the Congress for years before 9/11, but 9/11 provided the opportunity to implement it.

    The Dept of Homeland Security, on record, is to target anti-war activists, returning veterans, Ron Paul supporters, gay rights groups, pro-gun groups, and Constitutionalists.
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